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>> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. hello, everyone. i'm frederica whitfield in new york. ana cabrera has the day off. a single decision, a single vote and a seismic shift in the nation's cultural landscape. crowds have been gathering outside the supreme court after a majority five justices overturned the land mark roe v. wade decision. that means after nearly 50 years american women no longer have a
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constitutional right to abortion. states will now define abortion laws. and 13 states have abortion bans that were triggered into law by this morning's ruling. in all about half the states in this country are expected to implement abortion bans. it's a monumental victory for abortion opponents and conservatives. but many liberals and moderates fear that the court could target other landmark presidents like same-sex marriage and contraception. justice clarence thomas explicitly called for those cases to be revisited. he wrote today for that reason the future cases we should reconsider all this court's substantive due process including lawrence, griswold and obergefell. we have a duty to correct the error established in those precedents.
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cnn's jessica schneider is outside the supreme court, kaitlan collins at the white house. the president just spoke. he did not mince words saying this is a sad day for the court and country. what else did he say? >> reporter: he called it a solemn day for the united states and said the supreme court did not simply limit the constitutional right to get an abortion, they completely overturned the ruling, roe v. wade. saying they completely took it away in these arguments. and he was talking about what a solemn day he believes it is for america. and for a president who doesn't often invoke his predecessor he did by name just now saying it was the addition of those three supreme court justices who are appointed by former president trump that factored in such a major way into today's decision by the court to overturn roe v. wade. and he noted the fact that there have been supreme court justices who are appointed by both democratic and republican presidents who maintained this decision and upheld it for so long, and he talked about what
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the consequences of what today's decision means for americans. >> state laws banning abortion are automatically taking effect today, sqjeopardizesing the heah of millions of women, so extreme women could be punished for protecting their health. so extreme that women and girls are forced to bear their rapist's child. a child of consequence -- it just stuns me. >> reporter: the president there at a loss of words for a moment as he was talking about what this decision means. he also talked about how the white house and his administration is going to respond. and he said the justice department will be ready to have legal challenges for any states or state official that try to limit women who try to travel
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out-of-state if they can't get an abortion in their home state to another state. it's really been a ruling they've been bracing for so many months. but at the end, of course, the president noted how limited he is in executive actions he can take. of course no executive action he can take will undo what happened with the supreme court today. so for that matter he called on americans to elect more pro-choice democrats this negative in the mid-term election saying he does believe roe v. wade is on the ballot come november. >> kaitlan, thank you. and jessica, this may be the most life changing decision from the court in decades, so what more are you learning about the ruling? >> reporter: that's right, frederica. life changing for millions of american women but also the most consequential decision from the supreme court in decades. just about 50 years. the court here eliminating the constitutional right to an abortion, something they established way back in 1973. and this gives all the power to
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individual states. they will be able to determine abortion rights for the women in their states and the changes are set to come as the president said almost immediately. more than two dozen states are poised to almost immediately ban abortion. this was a 5-4 decision. this was authored by justice alito. crucially the chief justice john roberts he did not want to go so far as overturning roe v. wade, though he said he will vote to uphold the mississippi 15-week abortion ban. still the consequence is roe v. wade is overturned because of these five conservative justices. here's something from justice alito's opinion. he called roe v. wade egregiously wrong from the start. he said its reasoning was exceptionally weak and the decision has had damaging consequences. and far from bringing about a national settlement of the abortion issue, roe and casey have inflamed debate and
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deepened division. the dissent here also responded with a very curt joint response from the three liberal justices. justice steven breyer, of course he's retiring soon, and justices sotomayor and elena kagen writing this. one result of today's decision is certain, the curtailment of a woman's rights and of their status as free and equal citizens. so, fred regia, this opinion not only dividing the nation but also this court and today overturning roe v. wade leaving it all to the state. frederica? >> thank you, jessica. lauren, house speaker nancy pelosi was very somber. what does she have to say? >> reporter: well, she started her press conference saying she wasn't even going to say good morning because it was not in her view a good morning. she was visibly upset, stunned by the decision, she said.
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here's more about what she had to say in that press conference. >> what is happening here? what is happening? a woman's fundamental health decisions are her own to make in consultation with her doctor, her faith, her family not some right-wing politicians. but to see the chief justice side with this radical agenda, it's just stunning. and again as a woman, as a mother, as a grandmother to see young girls now have fewer rights than their moms and even their grandmothers is something very sad. if you are a woman, if you care about women, if you respect women you know that this is a disgraceful, disgraceful judgment that they made. >> reporter: and i also spoke to two other democrats this morning. senator chris coons told me that, you know, this decision
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today really took out the good will that senators in that bipartisan group that had passed that gun safety legislation last night, that they had felt for one another. he said this decision really totally changed the dynamics of how the senate is feeling this morning and this afternoon. it just goes to show you that lawmakers still trying to take this information in. republicans obviously celebrating this decision. democrats saying that they are going to make this the campaign issue going into the mid-term elections. frederica? >> all right, lauren fox, kaitlan collins, jessica schneider, thanks to all of you. appreciate it. let's bring in cnn senior legal analyst laura coates, constitutional law professor and author of "she took justice," gloria marshal, and legal analyst jeffrey toobin. jeffrey, i mean the president said this is not over. he said, however, it is up to congress to restore roe v. wade as federal law.
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we know recently they tried to codify it. it didn't work. what so what are the options? >> there aren't a lot for the federal government. they can protect the right to travel. they can protect the ability to mail abortion pills through the mail. but i mean this really is going to be a state by state fight, and it's also going to be a fight in the supreme court about other rights. because remember what the court said, what justice alito said in the opinion is the constitution says nothing about abortion. it doesn't mention abortion in the constitution. it also doesn't mention same-sex marriage. it also doesn't mention contraception. it also doesn't mention consensual sex. and in justice thomas' opinion he says the court should revisit, that is overturn the decisions that prevent state from limiting contraception, same-sex marriage, consensual sex. so the -- the opportunity for
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change here is all on the right. all the left can do is play defense bhes it can state by state. >> justice thomas posting what is ahead faoreshadowing. in the plessy ruling there was an expansion of rights. this is a ruling that has taken away. how has it happened that for 50 years roe v. wade has been upheld as constitutional a dozen times? >> what's so important to think about is i woke up this morning as millions of womens across this country with certain rights. i will go to bed with less rights than my grandmother had in her lifetime, than my great grandmother had in my her lifetime. this is one of the first instances i can think of where the supreme court has taken away rights that not only have been reinvested in, people have relied upon that has been based and also upheld for successive
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generations over 50 years. and you cannot restate this principle enough, the real reason the majority opinion found for this no longer to be a viable right is because it was not part of a long-standing or rooted in the history of our nation. let's just go back for a second here on the constitution. a lot of things have not been rooted in our nation's history that ought to have been codified then, and later on were developed into our society. the idea all the different rights part of the same notion, fundamental recognizes a jeffrey talked about, same-sex marriage, interracial marriage, the opportunity to be in a same-sex relationship, the idea of contraceptives, all of those things are not rooted in our nation's long history, according to this majority opinion. and they want to carve that out and say we're not talking about those things. this is just about this. the supreme court ought to know better than any other entity in the entire world about the problems of a slippery slope. and though they want to wall off
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just abortion rights in this country and ignore other things based on the same premise, they will not be able to do so. and i remind everyone the supreme court has already been a part of its own delegitimization here. when they allowed texas to do an end run of the precedent and thumb their nose at the supreme court and said i don't care what precedent you have, well the supreme court has essentially said our precedent is no longer going to be the end-all, be all. as the majority said it will not be a straitjacket but apparently not just for everything, just what they want to carve out. >> professor brown marshal, this ruling allows states to decide abortion rights or restrictions. 13 states have abortion laws now immediately triggered into effect. so what does this mean for women for families? what does tomorrow look like just as laura said, you know, today this morning it's one
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picture, tomorrow it's another. but for tomorrow for those making plans, what does it potentially look like? >> we don't know, and that's the problem. the supreme court is supposed to give clarity to the country. when there are conflicts in the circuits, when there are issues that come before the supreme court they take so few cases in order to give clarity to the country. this gives no clarity. on the one hand the new york case involving guns says that the state cannot decide who can conseal a weapon and carry it outside. and then it turns on the on the other hand and says, oh, you leave this to the legislative body and women have political power and therefore use that political power to lobby your legislative body and get team to say it's all right for you to have access to abortion. so as was pointed out, we don't know since anti-abortion leaders
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have said this is just the first step. they've already said they're going to go into each state step by step and take away abortion rights altogether. going back to what was said by laura and the history, when we look at the history and they put forward these statutes of the 1800s of women denied abortion rights, these statutes came at a time of nationalism, and that's what we're in right now. we're in a period of nationalism in which every white baby counts because they're not thinking about the people of color. they're thinking about population growth knowing that by the year 2045 this country is going to be majority people of color. so they're underlining conservative issues here that are not being discussed that need to be when it comes to this decision. >> and jeffrey, i mean this is a victory for activists, politicians who have been trying to overturn this for decades, who have fought, you know, through state legislation to
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chip away at roe v. wade. i mean so what does this say about the power of this movement especially this morning there are a lot of people who are feeling like this came so suddenly and abruptly. but really it has been going on for decades and this is the end result. >> and this is something donald trump recognized when he ran for president. he said over and over again he said in one of his debates with hillary clinton, if i win i will appoint justices who will vote to overturn roe v. wade. and conservatives who didn't like donald trump's personal life, who didn't like his demeanor, who didn't like, you know, the way he's conducted himself in all his marriages, they said, no, this is what matters to us, that's why we're going to support him. the evangelical community was very supportive through donald trump's presidency. >> overlook the other stuff. >> and they got what they wanted. and, you know, there's a lesson here that the supreme court is on the ballot every time you vote for president, every time
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you vote for senators who vote to confirm supreme court justices. so, you know, maybe democrats will learn the significance. that is not something that's been a big motivating factor for democratic voters. it has been one for republican voters, and they got what they wanted today. >> and as we're talking the images right outside the supreme court, the crowd getting louder, getting bigger. laura, in the recent confirmation hearings we heard justices kavanaugh, gorsuch, coney barrett all state the values, the precedent of roe v. wade, and now those very justices joined a majority to overturn it. so does this devalue the confirmation process? >> yes, i think it points out the fact that it is theirs to lose, and all they have to do is say the right things long enough to a particular audience to get that confirmation and then do what they'd like after that. i'd note in the concuring opinion written by justice brett
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kavanaugh he focused in on this notion in a way i think trying to anticipate we would have this conversation today. the idea i thought you will said you believe in the value of things. but i go back to that majority opinion written by justice alito that suggests these are not straight jackets, plessy v. ferguson on one hand as one they've raised. pointing out the hypocrisy of these things and compartmentalizing this notion. and what they essentially say is either the majority does not really believe in its own reasoning, or if it does all rights that have no history stretching back to the mid-19th century are insecure. either the mass of the majority's opinion is hypocrisy or additional constitutional rights are under threat. it is one or the other. and fred, today both cannot be
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true. you cannot on the one hand say if there's no mention in the constitution or no long-standing nod in history then it cannot be honored, and then say but everything outside of that same rationale can be. either you're a hypocrite or you are ignoring it. either you believe in starry decise s or you just wanted to be called a justice in the end. >> all right, we'll leave it there for now. laura coates, professor glorra brown marshall, and jeffrey toobin. also still ahead democratic senator amy klobuchar from the judiciary committee joining us. we'll get her take on this history making day in america. the u.s. supreme court overturning roe v. wade. way for whether it's a year old, or a few yearars old we want to buy your car so go to carvana enteter your license plate ananswer a few questions and our techno wizardry calculates your car's value
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all right, happening right now the house is voting on the historic bipartisan gun control bill negotiated and passed by the u.s. senate. there's no doubt this bill will be approved since democrats have control of the house, but we are also watching how many republicans end up supporting the legislation. so far at least seven have including congresswoman liz cheney. we'll let you know as soon as the vote is finished. all right, meanwhile, it has only been a matter of hours since the u.s. supreme court overturned roe v. wade. and some states are already enacting abortion laws and bans. 13 states have trigger bans or triggered laws to ban abortion as soon as the u.s. supreme court issued its ruling. missouri's attorney general says he signed an opinion moments after the decision that will, quote, effectively end abortion in the state.
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louisiana's attorney general saying, quote, this is the day the lord has made, i rejoice with my departed mom and the unborn children with her in heaven. the texas attorney general says he is making today annual holiday. cnn's tom foreman joining us right now. so, tom, what more do we know about the trigger bans and how states are reacting? >> reporter: as you noted 13 states, frederica, had so-called trigger laws in place for this day. meaning abortion bans going into effect very quickly according to the abortion rights group the group mocker institute. in kentucky barring some issues somewhere there, those are all in effect now. at the next level abortion bans are to be enforced 30 days from now in idaho, texas and tennessee, although there's a push in texas to bypass that delay and implement a ban even sooner. this whole map, all this is
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changing very rapidly. then we have a half dozen states are states certify their legislation is legally valid before the ban kicks in. arkansas missouri, utah. missouri already jumped on it and certified and others moving rapidly in that direction making their bans almost immediate. it could just be hours or days until all of those are done. and finally we can add in the states that have old, unenforced abortion bans which now can be enforced, all together you get a whopping 26 states certain or likely to ban abortion. we say likely because there are places such as montana where a state supreme court ruling is still away. that's compared to 16 states that would end these laws that
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protect abortion rights. how severe are these new laws? missouri has eyes on targeting even nonresidents who might pass through and conceive a child in their state. and if that person were to get an abortion elsewhere they could pursue them legally. oklahoma passed a law just this year to ban abortion from the moment of fertilization. texas and some other states want abortion illegal after just six weeks when women may not even know they are pregnant. conservative lawmakers in several states have embraced the idea there should be no exception for rape or incest and almost all these laws carry stiff penalties for medical professionals caught providing abortion services. tens of thousands of dollars in fines, loss of their licenses and potentially years in prison. frederica? >> all right, tom, thank you so much. all right, let's continue this discussion right now. i want to bring in senator amy klobuchar. she's a democrat from minnesota and sits on the judiciary committee.
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good to see you. so roe v. wade it's the law you grew up knowing. how does the overturning of it make you feel today? >> 50 years of precedent, frederica. i'm someone that believes in the law, believes in the court, and they literally flipped it on its head, these trump-appointed justices. and you just heard about the impact, automatic trigger laws in 13 states. i just believe that the people of america trust a woman over her own health care to make her own decisions to make with her doctor, with her family, not politicians. and i also think we don't want a patchwork of laws where women in minnesota have different rights than women in texas. and as was just pointed out by tom these extreme laws 500 more are being introduced. missouri had a bill introduced this last year that would allow people to sue people who helped people to go to another state if
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they need an abortion. and the reasoning of the court, it does -- it doesn't just send us back to the 1950s, it is the 1850s. you just heard about the laws from 1864 in arizona, from before 1850 in wisconsin. the women of america don't want to go backwards. they're going forwards. >> your colleague from maine, gop senator susan collins, says this vote is inconsist with what kavanaugh and gorsuch said in their hearings and she is disappointed from our reporting from manu raju earlier. this may be serious buyers remorse but it's unreversible. what does this tell you about how this court may address other matters, other issues that may directly impact households? >> well, of course it's concerning when in the majority opinion that justice alito wrote
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he actually based his decision on precedent from, you know, the 1200s, but he also added that the word "abortion" isn't in the constitution. well, it's been pointed out woman is not in the constitution. contraception is not in the constitution. gay marriage is not in the constitution. and then justice thomas takes it a step forward in his opinion and actually starts questioning those precedents. this is an extremely and extreme conservative court. the answer to me -- and i was listening to your fine panel before this when jeffrey toobin who's a very good analyst but he said democrats choice is defense. no, no, i'm a football fan. i think the best defense is a good offense. and democrats are going on offense here and asking moderate republicans and independents to join us in states georgia,
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nevada, new hampshire, arizona, colorado, washington state, pennsylvania, wisconsin, north carolina, florida, ohio, missouri. why do i bring up these states? it's going to be on the ballot because pro-choice democratic incumbents and challengers are standing up for the right to choose. that is how you change this, frederica. you change it at the ballot box. and you already see the peaceful protests all over the country. 80% of the public is with us. that is the answer to this extreme court that is out of touch, put in their sadly by republican colleagues and donald trump. >> and senator, as a result of this decision today women are going to need support. and i know democrats tried to pass paid family leave as part of the build back better bill. when you talk about going on the offensive, is this something your party should be looking at trying to pass some kind of
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stand alone bill in that respect? >> we actually had a vote on this bill, and not one republican joined us in upholding and codifying roe v. wade into law. but you're right, the women of america want their rights, but they also want paid family leave. they want us to finally do something on child care, something the democratic party strongly supports -- preschool. all of these things are things i believe we should do and we can do. but today -- frederica, today is about a fundamental right that has been struck down by this court. and it is on the people of america. we're asking for their help to restore this right. you just -- we cannot go backwards in this country. we cannot have the women of the country -- young women like my daughter grow up and have less rights than their moms and their
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grandmas. that just can't be the america we live in, and that's what you're seeing out on the streets today. >> senator amy klobuchar, good to see you. thank you so much. >> thank you. thanks for having me on. joining us right now is kristen day, an anti-abortion advocate and executive director for democrats life for america. kristen, so good to see you. so your reaction to today's ruling? >> i never thought i would see this in my lifetime, see roe v. wade be overturned. we're very excited about the decision today. >> and why? >> you know, this gives us an opportunity to go back to the states and see how we can really do more to focus on what women really need. a lot of women who seek abortion don't want one, and the focus has been so much on should abortion be legal or illegal.
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and not enough attention has been paid to what women do want, and they want to have the support to carry their child to term. they don't want to have abortions. each state is going to have their individual challenges to support abortion. we have states like new jersey that will have abortion up to nine months but they also have very high abortion rates in their -- the challenge there is limit the rate. in the states where they will limit abortion to eight weeks they will have to do a better job making sure women post-eight weeks have the support to carry their child to term. >> what is your argument or response to women who say they want more rights, more protections, not less? >> you know, when you talk to women who are seeking abortions, they don't want abortion especially in these states with high abortion rates. when you talk to women in the black and brown community who are overrepresented in the abortion numbers, they don't
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want abortion. they want opportunity to parent. most of the women who seek abortion are low income. and what we're telling low income women is abortion is your best option? now is the time to reframe that and say you know what we're going to make a concerted effort to make sure all women have the opportunity to parent because abortion is still going to be legal in plenty of states -- >> i'm sorry to interrupt -- >> and we need to focus on those women and give real choice. >> are you also disappointing 80% of americans do believe women should have a choice, the right to choose? >> i think the numbers it depends on how you ask a question, and it depends on where you place the limitation on abortion. when you look at polls a majority of americans do support a limitation at 12 weeks. you know, and that number goes down as you go further in the abortion, 20 weeks or late term abortions, fewer women and men
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support later term abortions. and the trend has been to go extreme on abortion and d deregulating abortion for blue states that we were fighting it back in new jersey. we need to get our house back in order and say what can we do for women? if abortion is legal in these states how can we make sure it is safe for women still by bringing back regulation, health and safety regulations and making sure there are inspections of abortion clinics to make sure the women are at least safe, making sure women do get ultrasounds to make sure there's talk of pregnancy before an abortion. we need to focus on compassion to women and providing opportunity for women to carry their children to term in these states with high abortion rates. >> we're going to leave it there for now. thank you so much. we have this breaking news in. the u.s. house has just passed the historic bipartisan gun
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reform bill. >> the yeas are 234. the nays are 193. the motion is adopted. without objection a motion to reconsider is laid upon the table. the motion is adopted. >> all right, the only thing it needs now is president biden's signature. cnn's jessica dean is on capitol hill. so jessica, 15 republican senators supported this bill. did any republicans in the house? >> reporter: yeah, we saw 14 house republicans, frederica, supporting this bill. and unlike the senate where senate minority leader mitch mcconnell was in favor of this legislation in the house, house leadership was against this legislation and actively whipped votes on that encouraging house gop members to vote against it. those 14 house members including liz cheney, adam kinzinger and others supporting democrats on
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this historic legislation. and we've said it before but i think it bears repeating that this is absolutely historic. it has been decades since congress has done anything on gun safety legislation. so to see this go through and in this condensed time frame they were really pushing hard to get this done before the july 4th recession, and that seemed like a pipe dream to a lot of people. but to get this done this quickly is pretty significant. and again, just touching on some of the things it will do it'll close the so-called boyfriend loophole where anyone convicted of domestic violence will not be able to get access to a gun. it also pours money into mental health, billions of dollars into mental health, school safety, community safety among a number of things including advising red flag laws. frederica, significant legislation passing to the house. it means it now goes to president biden's desk for signature. >> jessica dean on capitol hill, thank you so much.
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let's talk quickly about this. nia-malika henderson with me now. we are talking about a day of restrictions whether it be from the supreme court or capitol hill, from supreme court restrictions on womens health and overturning of roe v. wade and from congress now a bipartisan effort to restrict some gun rights. so put it all into context for us today. >> no, i think you're exactly right. a big, big day 30 years in the making in terms of in some ways both of these decisions. you think this important battle to overturn abortion rights that has been about a three-decade push by conservatives. and if you think about what's happening with gun rights it's been about 30 years since anything has been done around restricting access to guns in this country. and listen, when you think about guns, this has been, unfortunately has come after very horrific shootings that we've seen in this country just over the last couple of weeks. and so joe biden will be one of
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the first presidents in many, many decades to sign comprehensive legislation around gun rights. so you've got the closing of the boyfriend loophole as well as a more focus on mental health as well and incentivizing our red flag laws across the country. but, listen, you know, i think we could be entering into a period where there is kind of a rejiggering of american rights. we see that of course with abortion, the supreme courtal rolling back a right women have had for 50 years, and we'll see what happens with any number of other rights, voting rights for instance. if you look at what clarence thomas said in his opinion, this idea of scrutinizing other rights around things like marriage, same sex intimacy and just intimacy more broadly and then around contraception. so this is a fascinating period that we are entering as a country. >> right, and nia, on guns i
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think you did frame that in a much more palatable way, it's restrictions on gun access as opposed to gun rights. all right, thank you so much. all right, next, a closer look at justice clarence thomas' views on the roe decision and why me thinks the court may need to revisit other high profile cases from recent past. i got some of my gold before i came to this country. i got some of my gold before you passed the bread. encourage one another..... i can buy gold for this?! you can buy gold for this. and talk about life's wins and misses. responsibly sourced like my gold but not responsibly cooked. because at the end of the day, nothing keeps it all together quite like - gold. visit invest.gold to see how gold is everyone's asset. ♪ making friends again, billy? i like to keep my enemies close. guys, excuse me. i didn't quite get that. i'm hard of hearing.
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the u.s. supreme court in a 5-4 decision has overturned owe v. wade, but a single line in the opinion from justice clarence thomas is raising concern that reversing the precedent on abortion rights just the beginning. thomas argues, i'm quoting now, in future cases we should reconsider all of the court's substantive due process precedents including griswold, lawrence and obergefell. we have a duty to correct the errors established in those precedents. cnn legal analyst laura coates and back with us. all right, so, laura, he's not beating around the bush.
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does it mean that cases about same sex marriage or contraception could be revisited and potentially overturned? >> yes, they could be revisited. he's not mincing his words. and frankly this is something when people when they first drafted the opinion back in may were concerned about. it's not suggest like other things like you just named, the right to have contraceptive use in marriage, the right to engage in same-sex sexual activity, the right to be married to the same person of your gender, same-sex marriage. all these notions is what people thought i guess is the reason alito wanted to put in there because he would obviously note if the rationale is based on the fact that, hey, if there's no long-standing national tradition or history or recognition of this as an explicit right in the constitution, then we can't recognize it here. thomas is essentially extending beyond that and saying now we
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must revisit or we could revisit these things. he does go on, however, to say there would still leave some questions unanswered. so just as a very basic thing, take a step back here. the question has always been if it's not explicitly in the constitution are there existing rights or amendments that might fit the bill? is it the first amendment or the fourth or the ninth amendment or is it the 14th amendment? all different rights talk about some form of freedom or liberty in these issues. so he's essentially saying if we're saying it's not going to be covered are there other things besides due process to the amendment that might cover it? so there is a little bit of a leeway to suggest there might be other things to cover that particular -- those rights. but i'm not at all optimistic given the fact that today the supreme court was more than comfortable taking away a right that had 50 years worth of tradition on the books. and it's not as if, fred, abortions in this country are
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going to stop. but they have cut off an avenue for safe, legal abortion in many states. >> is there anything at this juncture given that justice thomas was rather blunt, right, is there anything the white house could do to further enshrine gay marriage rights, for example, same-sex relations? is there anything preemptively it could do just in case justice thomas and others follow through with his warning shot? >> well, civics will always come to pass here. we've got three branches of government one being legislative. they are but the judiciary whose ability is to interpret the laws. if there are things you don't want to leave up to a court which is increasingly becoming a political entity, then, yes codifying whu you don't want to be left up to judicial opinion is going to be important.
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but remember the senate has a very tough row. and i know of course president biden is a kreeccreature of the senate but he's aware of the thing called a filibuster. you're going to have to either get ten more republicans to join into an entired unified caucus to try and go against the filibuster or try to make an exception to the filibuster in some way, a carve out much like they did, by the way, to raise the debt ceiling. it has been done and hasn't been done recently. and aside from that you don't really have all the tools at ones disposal to try to undermine the court. >> we'll leave it there for now. laura coates, thanks so much. and next we'll take you back to that location right there, the u.s. supreme court where large crowds are gathering just hours after the supreme court struck down roe v. wade. it's kig liberty mutual. they customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. woah! look out! [submarine rising out of water] [minions making noise]
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we've spoken with people on both sides of this issue. the people who are in support of this opinion are obviously elated, and now they say that the plan of action, again, this is for people who are in support of this decision, is to go state-by-state and try to basically block access to abortion state-by-state, so that's on the pro-life side of this issue. on the anti- -- on the side who is in support of allowing access for abortion rights, obvious disappointment. people were crying, but now there is a huge crowd out here, so clearly people feel like there's still an action item out here. they still feel like there's something they can do. let me show you the size of the crowd here, which has grown substantially over the last several hours. this crowd was just a couple dozen people when this opinion came out. now, there are hundreds and hundreds of people. as you can see, law enforcement is gearing up. there are more officers now than we've seen throughout the day. the big concern for law enforcement at this point, based on what you see from the crowd, is not necessarily opposing
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protests clashing, because at this point, people who are in support of this opinion have left. so right now, this is just entirely people who are disillusioned by this decision, who are calling the supreme court illegitimate, among other things. people who clearly are protesting to try to preserve some rights to abortion. further, the big issue, when you have a crowd like this, for law enforcement, is they're very concerned about a lone actor seeing this as an opportunity to commit acts of violence. law enforcement throughout the washington area has been concerned about people who are utilizing this as an opportunity to carry out acts of domestic violent extremism. that's what they're planning for. security throughout the area ramping up. capitol police ramping up staffing, mpd ramping up staffing, and that goes too for the jurisdictions where the supreme court justices live. they have put, for example, in one jurisdiction, where supreme court justices live, they have put their civil disturbance
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unit, which is basically their r riot cops on standby. the big concern is violence back here at the capitol. >> right now, the focus is going to be right there. >> reporter: this attention, this anger, this emotion could turn toward the capitol. that's the other thing capitol police is bracing for. >> the emphasis right now and the focus right there at the u.s. supreme court, whitney wild, thank you so much. that's going to do it for me, i'm fredricka whitfield. more breaking news after this. folks, we seem to have a visitor. it looks like... looks like you paid too much for your glasseses. who? anyone who isn't shopping at america's best where two pairs and a free exam start at just $79.95.5. it's a quality exam worth $50. now, let's take a look at traffic. what are you doing? looking at traffic. two pairs and a free exam starting at just $79.95. book an exam today at americasbest.com. hi mom! the tempur-pedic breeze° makes sleep...feel cool. because the tempur-breeze° transfers heat away from your body... ...so you feel cool, night after night.
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